The Fall Guy

Joined

• started 264 topics
• posted 1,602 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by The Fall Guy

• 
  50

  How long is a generation?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what splain does in his talk and chart illustration is make the leap that a generation can have two groups.

  and in this case the two groups span more than 108 years.

  but no where in scripture is there ever a notion that a generation has two groups.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  @ LTP - (Job 42:16) “After this Job lived for 140 years, and he saw his children and his grandchildren—four generations.”

  Even JW's without a higher education can divide 140 by 4 and get the right answer.

  @ SOUR GRAPES - The JDubs will say that even though Jesus was referring to his time period that his words were prophetic and had a second fulfillment in our time.

  As Vanderhoven points out, Matthew 24:21 eliminates any possibility of a “greater fulfillment.”

  Jesus said that the great tribulation he referred to would never occur again! Which part of 'never' don't JW's understand?

  The G.T. At Revelation 7:14 is in context with the G.T at Revelation 2:22 and is not alluding to Matthew 24.
  
• 
  14

  18-Year Old Daughter Moves in with Boyfriend and studying to become a witness

  by RunAwayDaughter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my 18-year-old-daughter, who has not finished high school, left south carolina on january 31 with her 22-year old boyfriend to move in with his family in california.

  they are jehovah witness.

  daughter: i love you too.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  Why don't you supply her with some very pointed questions to pose to those who are studying indoctrinating her? Such questions will assuredly trigger an adverse reaction towards her from all of the JW's in the household. If that doesn't open her eyes, nothing will.

  PM me if you'd like some relevant Bible v JW literature suggestions.
• 
  39

  Sunday's Watchtower Study March 18... Another Money Appeal

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  january 2018 issue "why give to the one who has everything?

  an unashamed contribution appeal... this one with the most manipulative language i can imagine... it may have been commented on before, but i am going to anyway.. p5 quote.

  "would you not agree that jehovah is worthy of all the glory and honor that we can give him by offering the best that we have?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  @ Vidiot - On the face of it, the the org has never had so much money in its grubby little hands and at the same time had the least expenses. So why is the cult constantly fleecing the sheep? Need or greed?

  I am optimistic that it's need - triggered by the financial crash and the WTBTS's very heavy losses in the Wall Street casino. (exacerbated by law suits) Please let it be so!
• 
  39

  Sunday's Watchtower Study March 18... Another Money Appeal

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  january 2018 issue "why give to the one who has everything?

  an unashamed contribution appeal... this one with the most manipulative language i can imagine... it may have been commented on before, but i am going to anyway.. p5 quote.

  "would you not agree that jehovah is worthy of all the glory and honor that we can give him by offering the best that we have?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  A couple of years ago, I casually asked a zealous JW friend how he would react if the GB sent a letter to all congregations stating that the org was on the brink of financial collapse and begged JW home - owners to earnestly consider consolidating their properties by selling up and moving in with another JW household - and then send the proceeds of sale to the org, in order to prevent bankruptcy.

  I was pleasantly surprised when he said he wouldn't sell his house for the org! :)
• 
  27

  Do You Think a Schism is in the Future?

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking about this over the weekend.

  just this week, there was the "consolidation" talk (in my wife's congregation) , the article about shunning that went viral, and the annual "show your love and obedience to jehovah by giving us your money" watchtower.

  i know my wife said people are running scared about this consolidation even though it was sold as maximizing space to help other areas, build kh in other countries, etc...... the media and government has hit them hard in many countries, but they have gotten off easy in the usa, where the majority of the people and money reside.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  Lepermessiah said, "this religion is going to have to change to survive."

  I reckon the cult is going to continue with their program of making the sheeple change to fit the org's 21st century strategies.
  

  R&f JW's are being dominated and controlled more than they have ever been in the history of this cult, and the hierarchy will simply maintain their "great tribulation/Armageddon" message of doom to keep them in line.
• 
  14

  Watchtower back to criticising the United Nations

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the outline number 44 from this year’s regional assembly states:.

  la organización de las naciones unidas es en realidad una falsificación del reino mesiánico, y es una ofensa para dios.. .

  translation: “the united nations organisation is actually a counterfeit of the messianic kingdom, and it is offensive to god.”.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  Nothing ever changes. The WTBTS continues to make bullets for "worldly" folks to fire at r&f JW's, while "the faithful slave" gang is safely tucked up in their Warwick version of Moonbase Alpha.
• 
  67

  Russia Uses Nerve Agent to Assassinate Spy

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  what started as news of a man and woman being found unconscious on a park bench 12 days ago is escalating into an international incident.. sergei skripal had worked as a double agent for british intelligence mi6 before he was discovered and imprisoned in russia in 2006. he was later flown to england as part of a spy-swap in 2010. on sunday 4th march he was discovered along with his 33 year old daughter yulia close to a shopping centre in salisbury.. since then the story has become increasingly bizarre.

  a policeman who was first to attend the scene also became critically ill and remains in hospital.

  government scientists at porton down have confirmed that the cause is a russian military-grade nerve agent novichok.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  @ COFTY - "Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey was not first on the scene at the park bench where Sergei and Yulia were discovered. He was assigned to the investigation and attended their home on the outskirts of Salisbury."

  They fell ill after leaving the restaurant and never reached their home?????? The waters get muddier.
  
  
• 
  67

  Russia Uses Nerve Agent to Assassinate Spy

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  what started as news of a man and woman being found unconscious on a park bench 12 days ago is escalating into an international incident.. sergei skripal had worked as a double agent for british intelligence mi6 before he was discovered and imprisoned in russia in 2006. he was later flown to england as part of a spy-swap in 2010. on sunday 4th march he was discovered along with his 33 year old daughter yulia close to a shopping centre in salisbury.. since then the story has become increasingly bizarre.

  a policeman who was first to attend the scene also became critically ill and remains in hospital.

  government scientists at porton down have confirmed that the cause is a russian military-grade nerve agent novichok.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  Whoever authorised these attempted murders were worse than amateurish by leaving such an attributable "calling card" at the scene of the crime. Or was it left deliberately, in order to point a finger?

  Jill Dando's assassin never left such blatant clues - and he has never been identified. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Dando

  Just a question for UK folks: one of the two policemen who first attended the scene (and was also infected) was a Detective Sergeant. Surely uniformed beat cops would have been sent to a situation where persons appeared ill in a public place? I've never heard of detectives being first responders to such a scenario. Unusual to say the least.

  Adds to the conspiracy theories I suppose.
• 
  17

  The next time I see the cart babysitters

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the next time i see the jdubs standing or sitting by their carts sipping their coffee lattes or updating their facebook pages, i am going to approach them with the following thought process acting as an interested person.. do jw's believe the end is near?.

  do you consider your preaching work to be urgent?.

  why do you just let people walk by if their very lives are at stake?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  (Matthew 24:14) "And this good news of the Kingdom JW.Borg website will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."

  
  
• 
  26

  More head-in-the-sand nonsense of the worst possible kind ...

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  whenever a hollywood actress has been propositioned or touched up, we know all about it.. but a story - mostly suppressed by the mainstream media - is emerging of far worse abuse of human females.. telford appears to have a grooming/sex abuse scandal of its own to rival the ones in rochdale, oxford and other uk towns.. it appears the msm, police and politicians and other authorities are very slow in learning their lesson from rochdale.. unbelievable that this case hasn't made the guardian or the bbc.. i guess the sisterhood thinks hollywood women are much more important than telford girls.

  .

  https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/03/the-bbcs-shameful-silence-on-the-telford-sex-scandal/.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  The Fall Guy

  Western governments are paranoid about people speaking out/denigrating Islam & Muslims - but Christianity is fair game.

  After all, Christians won't blow up people & buildings or behead anyone who makes a cartoon of Jesus.

  Some info on the BBC Shropshire sub-site - but not on the main BBC News site.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-43416027

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-43391605